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Just noticed that this is still for sale almost 9 months on:

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C752150

It has a fresh MOT with the following advisories:

  • Offside Rear Seat belt cut but webbing not significantly weakened (5.2.2a)
  • Steering rack gaiter deteriorated both (2.2.D.2d)
  • Exhaust has a minor leak of exhaust gases (7.1.2)
  • Offside Front Vehicle structure has slight corrosion (6.1.A.1)
  • Nearside Front Vehicle structure has slight corrosion outrigger (6.1.B.2)
  • Fuel Pipe/s corroded ()
  • various brakes grabbing slightly

 

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Damn good spot here Monaco Blue, makes me wonder why anyone would buy this when for half the price they could buy an unusable smashed up Manta  (ok sorry for sarcasm)

But to me that previous comment puts a damn serious perspective on things. getting bored of seeing silly prices for what really is shit, this car isn't (or maybe isn't) and possibly could warrant a correct price

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Just my 2 Penneth but it seems Manta prices are starting to catch up with the Frods. The Manta that was mangled was a really nice car pre crash and only the buyer knows what they paid but if I had the know how I'd loved to have saved it. And thanks to guys like Kev and his brother (if it was them this time) more Mantas get saved that would previously have been ravaged for bits.

Get your frustration on the prices but for instance my project initially cost me 1250 with delivery  but since I have spent 2 grand buying the rest of the bits, if I was to sell now I'd hope to get a lot of that back. I'm not but I can see where some pricing ideas come from.

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16 hours ago, opel2000 said:

Damn good spot here Monaco Blue, makes me wonder why anyone would buy this when for half the price they could buy an unusable smashed up Manta  (ok sorry for sarcasm)

But to me that previous comment puts a damn serious perspective on things. getting bored of seeing silly prices for what really is shit, this car isn't (or maybe isn't) and possibly could warrant a correct price

Your comments re that written-off Exclusive are probably spot-on. I doubt there are many Manta enthusiasts out there that can afford to have cars such as this one brought up to scratch unless they have the skills & facilities to do it themselves. 

....and then you have Gordo up in East Kilbride trying to sell his late model E Plate GTE hatch in Platinum for £4500 without success so far. One does wonder. Having spent the last 18 months looking at Manta's and selling prices, this one is relatively speaking, a bargain!

As you know, the Lancashire Opel production line (Kevin/Andy/Dan & Carl) is in full swing & keeps knocking out cars at affordable prices. 

15 hours ago, TheRealExile said:

Just my 2 Penneth but it seems Manta prices are starting to catch up with the Frods. The Manta that was mangled was a really nice car pre crash and only the buyer knows what they paid but if I had the know how I'd loved to have saved it. And thanks to guys like Kev and his brother (if it was them this time) more Mantas get saved that would previously have been ravaged for bits.

Get your frustration on the prices but for instance my project initially cost me 1250 with delivery  but since I have spent 2 grand buying the rest of the bits, if I was to sell now I'd hope to get a lot of that back. I'm not but I can see where some pricing ideas come from.

A couple of Classic Car websites that appear to have a fairly representative selection of cars. 

http://www.trinitycarsolutions.co.uk/?page_id=191

https://www.kgfclassiccars.co.uk/showroom.php  Note the two Cavalier Coupe/Sporthatches for sale. Both very similar looking condition wise and low miles yet one is double the price of the other (or was) before dropping back to £10K. Apparently the Coupe was available for around £5000 earlier this year.

As for Fords, note the Escort 1300E up for £20K. A lovely car, but £20K!! Add a Mexico or RS badge to the back of it and that price doubles!

Then there's this one:  http://borderreivers.co/portfolio/opal-manta-berlinetta-1-8s/  £15K no less!  It does look mint and it might be worth that to a collector or speculator, but this was up for grabs on here earlier this year for circa £4500 and there wasn't a sniff apparently! It was later sold and for sale in a classic dealer in West Sussex for £6000 if I recall correctly (and sold in days) and now it's reappeared for £10 more!

The problem with rising prices is, it's a Catch 22 scenario. There comes a point (say £10-15K) when the average Manta fan will no longer be able to afford to buy the car of their desires and most will end up being bought and stored away in collections or in the hands of speculators (like Fords) hoping to make a profit in due course. The Berlinetta above illustrates that perfectly.

Edited by Monaco Blue

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