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#1 Kevin Abbott

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 12:17 AM

As I can't find ( after plenty of searching ) my project thread and with the old one being all messed up due to it being an old thread I will start again :)
I bought the car 12 years ago and set about the task of buying and fitting a cosworth engine and box


Opel Manta coupe,  the best shell I have had in 20 years and owned by a lady and the car had only 40 thousand miles on the clock
Back in the day digital cameras didn't exist so I have no pics of it as it was :'(


Hey ho.....   cosworth engine added and t5 box


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manta i240 bodykit from the best in the country( rallytech)
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T5 box a bit long for the manta so I sierra tunnel added although I now may go back to a getrag 265 and manta tunnel :'(

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Manta pcd is 4x100 and I wanted 5 x120 so hubs changed to monza with manta bearings custom made at a cost of 200 quid so I could pick and choose bmw rims
These are harge split rims

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Other rims to consider are these which seem to fill the arch better

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The roof on a manta is rubbish so I cut it off and added a non sunroof one

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And lead fill


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Manta brakes, deathwish so m3 discs and integralle calipers




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RS500 intercooler tucked into nose
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cage added



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manta steering is always really heavy( honestly it can be a 2 hand job just to turn and that leaves no hands for stirring the box :-X)  on a lowered car so I added corsa b column power steering
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Then I added EPS



Corsa b column

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Remove the outer collapsable top part of the corsa bit

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You are left with

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Don't hit the end of the spline as I did or the spline end will come off

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I will be putting a blob of weld on mine to hold the 2 parts together as the top part with the manta bit added will not collapse now anyway, the reference for the amount to stick out is 85mm for the top part


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Take your manta column and remove the inside part

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What I was trying to do was keep the columns the same length so the inner part was my reference point

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Take the outside of the manta column and chop it into 3 pieces

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Edited by Kevin Abbott, 22 January 2012 - 12:46 AM.


#2 Kevin Abbott

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 12:48 AM

Giving away my mancona and seeing Johns project gave me a kick up the arse.
So.
Iv'e never liked the T5 and sierra tunnel... Yuk
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After a little googling I found out the RS500 Touring cars used a Getrag box, the 265 :rolleyes:
I have a couple lying around so what the hell.
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265 monza box, yea :D
Need to join the two
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Ali adaptor ( cheers Cliff )
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Cut big hole in T5 bellhousing
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10 hours of measuring and measuring and measuring and swarf everywhere
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That's just together, not bolted up yet, spigot not done
Spigot was a PITA, tried getting it out of the cossie ... Arrrrrghhhhhh, ended up welding a nut to the race and drifted it out
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New oilite bearing fitted ( thank's Rutts ) after boiling it in oil
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It went a different colour
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Info, Sierra cosworth spigot bearing outer is 21mm, inner 14mm
Manta outer 21mm, inner 15mm
I needed a 21OD, 12ID
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Lots of angle measurements later as I had built a stand for the YB to sit the engine at 4 degree to Exhaust and the box had to be level
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Bolted up
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Edited by Kevin Abbott, 15 February 2012 - 07:10 PM.


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Posted 22 January 2012 - 05:35 PM

VERY NICE PROJECT!! :thumbup :) :)

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 06:29 PM

So this is the car Danny mentioned at the chrimbo function :rolleyes: . Nice to see someone taking as long as I am to get there ar5e in gear. :blink:

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 08:32 PM

very nice car

What is the rear diferencial

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 12:15 AM

great effort so far, looks awesome. whats the plan with the engine mounts?

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 07:27 AM

hi kev its peter i bought the roof skin from you do you have a lsd for sale?
thanks peter

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 07:33 PM

Post is a bit topsy turvy due to me not being able to add more pictures to the first bit

I now have a ' Martin' 400 kit for it and hope to bring the car home next week.
Loads of new stuff bought for it
Thank's to Rutts I have an original tunnel to go back into it too

You want the top outer part to be 180mm

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That part slips over the inner of the corsa bit


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These two parts will be welded together



Make room to get at the bolts

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This will now take the manta multi switchgear and wheel in the same place as a standard car


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Bottom part of the column

Take the inner shaft from the manta and split it then cut the bottom part down to 315mm


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Take the bottom part of the outer of the manta column and bolt it to the floor, mine hasn't got a bearing in as it will be blasted and a new one fitted

Column will now bolt into place as the original



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It fits in the bay as the standard one does


I got the column myself so removed lots of wiring and got the fuseholer that was standard in the car


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I settled on the 4ha mega axle as used by scimitar, jaguar and aston martin as it is unbreakable ;)
Pic is a 4ha compared to a 400 type axle
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I removed the axle from a scimitar gte and it was a 4 hour fight, at the end of it the bloke who owned the yard felt sorry for me and carried it to my volvo :)


PCD on the hub is 4x108 and I need 5x 120 so I went out and got a set of geometry school stuff, plotted the center of the scimitar and the bmw and transfered it onto graph paper

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So after a plug on one hole
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And a weld then grind flat
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The 5x120 can be drilled
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I had to add a milled surface for the back of the stud parallel to the hub so I got a counter bore drill

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It did this
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Studs in and ready for the wheels

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I am removing the links from the 4ha and replacing them with 400 type ones
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This is the xjs axle that is hiding the 4ha LSD. The only axle I have ever had to take apart with a sledgehammer
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Sorry Peter, i sold the rebuilt ZF I had on it.
Engine mounts are done,
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Other side harder to see as I had to use a cosworth 4x4 oil filter extension
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Posted 15 February 2012 - 10:07 PM

cool, so what is the plan for between the mount on the block and the fixing point on the sub frame? rubber bobbins or solid mounts?

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 10:16 PM

Sorry to crash this thread for a second but Peter, Gripper do a good slippy diff thats based on the ZF type. Kev car looks great and its been a great shelf for nearly 10years i have known ya haha but no it does look good.

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 05:36 PM

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 01:00 AM

View Postpeter evans, on 15 February 2012 - 07:27 AM, said:

hi kev its peter i bought the roof skin from you do you have a lsd for sale?
thanks peter
http://totalopel.com...ead.php?t=17620 in ireland
car is looking good kev,when will it be finished :ph34r:

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 08:11 PM

View Postgarymanc, on 17 February 2012 - 01:00 AM, said:

http://totalopel.com...ead.php?t=17620 in ireland
car is looking good kev,when will it be finished :ph34r:
For Billing ;)

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 11:30 PM

which year kev;-).




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